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Average club speed was 105-112, average ball speed was 139-152, and average rpm was between 4400-5100. Youd be correct and that is why its always best to get fitted and discuss purchases with your pro. Justin is that really you?? It is vital for them to know exactly how far they hit their wedges with a variety of different types of shots because feel is so important from those short distances, especially at the top level of the game, where a yard or two can make the difference between winning or losing a tournament. Cobra Aerospeed 3W Kai'Li White I'm not going to wear my body down trying to swing that club. If it's a longer hole, I'll play the driver. I think it would be awesome to see if any of the numbers change due to the new developments. Hi Gerry. You can see the fuller head at the top of the toe in the lob wedges when the clubs are aligned next to each other, but you can only slightly notice a change in shape at address. Hang Time 5.8 Justin Thomas and Excel Sports Management are not responsible for lost, stolen or damaged items. I wouldn't take a trackman stat to the bank. For example, I could average over 300 yards per round during the summer with a driver. You will probably pick up that I gravitate towards the technical aspects of most things I do. [/quote] The wedge glided through the turf and nipped the ball at impact, resulting in reliable soft strikes. Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 7 S, Hybrid: Callaway Apex (19 degrees) It is fun and I find that I usually am scoring better than I would say 90% of the guys I play with now, hitting on average longer than 90% and I realize that that is because shooting in the 90s means in golf you are better than most so above average which unless you played since a teenager and have no other life and want to play 4 to 5 days a week or more that is all you can ask for. I cant hide my excitement and love for a Vokey wedge and it doesnt change on these. Because winning money, titles, and shooting low scores doesnt involve all that much power hitting, especially with the irons. Despite the slight changes SM9 still looks very much like a Vokey should and thats what I like about these heads. Most of the guys I play/practice with are +2 to 5 handicaps. Pro Modus 3 Tour 105 S, Wedges: Callaway Jaws (54-10S, 58-10S), Titleist Vokey Design SM6 (62-08M) There is no age or nationality restriction for the AMA. Callaway XR Pro (20) Diamana White 90X This promotes a lower ball flight and is seen by tour players as being a more accurate shot than having the ball float into the air. Consistency is Key, Are Driving Range Distances Accurate? Justin is committed to showing benevolence and grace to children in need, with the goal of bolstering their confidence, strengthening their determination, and allowing them great possibilities. Just would be interesting to see. Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. I didnt start playing until i was 31 and it was over by 42 yet my handicap was 12. I appreciate that. WebIn 2018, Justin was just the 21st player to ever reach #1 in the Official World Golf Rankings following his WGC win in Memphis. [quote]I don't measure my driver distance. Grip: SuperStroke, Driver: Titleist 917 D3 (10.5 degrees @12) I shared the dispersion plot with our local club committee who are thinking of installing trackman after redeveloping several holes, and was asked questions along these lines: 1. As golf instruction and coaching continue to move more towards verifiable data (what the instructor/coach knows) and further away from guess and check (what the instructor/coach thinks), we expect to see more improvement in the golf community. A lot of guys come from athletic backgrounds too, and maybe took up the game at an older age. Our TrackMan Combine database would contain the answer to those questions, but it would require significant work to pull that information out. [quote name='baseballfrk8998' timestamp='1364403832' post='6707431'] As we can again see from Brooks Koepkas yardage book above he has 5 different yardages listed for each of his specialist wedges which highlights just how much distance control the best golfers in the world can exert with their wedges. There is CG shift between lofts and there is a progressive hosel length in the wedges to balance out weight distribution. Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. #:>PC"ljTTZ!@8[+D py"4]F: }X@`*0gIiF1|fv3cp{c?9EkD!j> xV#+D7xEouj|_\ctk--[ne5a|N}x^. With all the new technology that is now available in Drivers since this article came out, do you plan on updating the information. Course length, driver optimization, and course strategy are three key components to improving the performance of the AMA. And as it is highly unlikely even the best pros in the world never want to hit their driver as far as they can so it is clearly the club we are going to get the best idea of the maximum distance they hit the ball. This is something Butch Harmon has been trying to get Danielle Kang to do for a few years because it simplifies the shot and you can go at the flag more. [/quote] Thanks. First we have to determine the average length of the par 4s at your course from the different tees available. My handicap is 24, but my driving (swing) works well. You're delusional if you think any amateur on WRX that claims to have similar numbers to the longer pros thinks they are also as good as a tour pro. Short hitter compared to the average WRXer WebSee how The Honda Classic Justin Thomas Trackman numbers look https://blog.trackmangolf.com/justin-thomas-trackman-numbers/ [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Average Distance - 302 yards[/background][/size][/color] Driver: Charles Kelley whats in the bag accurate as of the Pebble Beach Pro-Am. Does anyone know any of Tiger Woods Trackman data either pitching, irons, 3woods or driver? Probably because he plays a higher spin ball than most. Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Blue 6 X, 3-wood: Titleist TSR3 (15 degrees @ 14.25) It's the short game. Sorry for the ramble. I bet a lot of my tee shots find the rough though. I hit the same. |K_ %E_{/{5* Bx2 @ xM6#N I blame it on TV coverage. What is the speed? Sorry that I can not be of better help right now. Instead, its mostly situational. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Ball Speed - 185 mph[/background][/size][/color] %PDF-1.5
[/quote] Even my 4 iron ball speed max is 137 and Im getting 235 yards. My teachers are always trying to get me to change my swing to generate club head speed, but this consistently leaves me frustrated and physically sore. A former tour pro told me he hit a tree branch off the tee that knocked his ball down, and it affected his average for the whole year by 15 yards. No question - 100%. Display as a link instead, 200 to 225 yards. He has an average attack angle of -1.6 degrees. GHIN reported the average male handicap at 15.3 in 2003 and 14.3 in 2012. When you account for factors such as wind, elevation, ground conditions and also the context in which the shot is being played Koepka, like all the pros, has a number of options for each iron shot which makes the question of how far he hits each iron a bit more complex than at first you may think. I suppose you have the biggest and fastest car as well ? Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Black 6 X, 3-wood: TaylorMade Stealth 2 Plus (15 degrees @ 14) I am still unsure of how a higher handicapper can benefit as much other than having higher bounce in a wedge. Am I as good as tour pro? I do agree the AMA should be playing much shorter courses than most presently do. [/quote] People like you that rant about longer amateurs is what makes for good laughs. He is 180 ball speed off the driver with outstanding launch numbers. Those numbers seem about right. Not uncommon these days for elite swing speed Thomas breakout season came in 2016-17 with five of his PGA TOUR wins, including the PGA Championship, 12 top 10 finishes and, ultimately, the FedEx Championship. You could take my woods and irons and pair it with Phil's wedge play and Stricker's putter and I'd be an average PGA tour player. Dont Waste Your Money, Should Your Wedges Match Your Irons? Almost every post I read on the internet the guys say they are swinging 125 mph. NOW AVAILABLE: GolfWRX G/Fore Hats and Holderness & Bourne Polos! I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. it would be great to see this information on a broadcast on a couple of hole locations - combined with protracer. Apex Height 112' 11" Executive Director, The First Tee of Louisville, Jennifer Helgeson Firstly there is really no need to play an 8 iron that long, secondly why on earth would you play nothing but trap draws especially with short iron [/quote] 2023 Arnold Palmer Invitational - Discussion and Links to Photos, 2023 The Honda Classic - Discussion and Links to photos, 2023 Genesis Invitational - Discussion and Links to photos, 2023 Waste Management Phoenix Open - Discussion and Links to Photos, 2023 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am - Discussion and Links to all photos, 2023 HSBC Women's World Championship (Mar 02 - 05), Byron Morgan best for your balls DH89 & the elusive DBCM 8802, TWO PUTTERS - ONE POST. 14* SLDR // Speeder 8.3x #TeamTrackMan The best distance comparison we have for those clubs is therefore the carry distance. Granted, their handicaps are high, but it gives a lot of support to what Mr. Pelz has been telling us all these years. What Irons Do the Pros Use? But if you take the averages over a season you are going to get more than a good idea of how far the pros are hitting each club. 2 were over 320. Yes, typically very short drivers of the ball are better iron players or wedge players. 4 -PW: Callaway Apex MB, KBS $ taper 130X, Wedges - Jaws raw 50, 54, 59 KBS $ taper 130x, Putter- Odyssey Vesa 12 center stroke lab shaft. Justins interest in the military was inspired by some of the men and women in uniform he has met over the years. The plan is to include this type of information within TrackMan University in the future, but that is likely many months away at this point. For example while one pros gap wedge may be 50 another may choose 53 or even 54 for that same gap wedge club and with such a difference in lofts it becomes very difficult to compare with any meaning how far the pros hit the same-named wedge. Although early days yet is there a general reason for the different results in club path. It is not to suggest that a golfer should simply play a shorter course to shoot better scores, but that a golfer should play a course length that is appropriate. Impacting the game through junior golf programs has always been an important part of his charitable giving. Ive played four rounds since reading this, and shot 81, 83, 79, and 78. Either way I don't care. The driver is almost always the most talked about golf club in everyone's bag. Tiger Woods Trackman numbers, I thought they were posted on here at one time from an event. Having the ability to hit it the ball as far as they can has nothing to do with me thinking highly of myself. *Normalized data was used to calculate approach shot distances. In the bag I think the wedges looks great. Mizumo T22 Blue 54 58 S400 TI Finally the bunker shot, this is where I feel Vokey really stand out and help my game. Thats 95 extra yards, putting the actual distance of the drive under neutral conditions around 340-345. Ball Speed 176.38 WebSee how The Honda Classic Justin Thomas Trackman numbers look https://blog.trackmangolf.com/justin-thomas-trackman-numbers/ Lets go one step further and use the TrackMan Combine data to see what kind of proximity to hole the AMA will be able to achieve at the various approach distances. My 8 iron 190yards 5iron 252 yards Pw is 150yrds And loft 56 at 120yrds Loft 110 yrds How do i control the power to less distance? Once you except your limitations, you can get out and enjoy the game we LOVE instead of loathing it. Standard 60 lob wedges meanwhile carry 95 to 105 yards on average. Scotty Cameron SS Newport Beach w/ UST Frequency Filter and Rosemark Thorn 1.52 grip. I have shot level round the chammpionship course on occasion also though. The flight is reduced and the spin still remains. Their experiences, time away from family, and willingness to sacrifice their lives for our freedom has truly made an impact on Justin. WebCongratulations to Justin Thomas ! Based on the Trackman, the fitter's recommendation was a 910 D3, 7.5 loft, and a Graphite Design Tour AD DI 8X. [/quote] F rom the comfort of your sofa or if youre lucky, alongside the ropes each major championship gives you a chance to see the biggest hitters in the world unsheathe their drivers and swing away. Dont think they ever release that stuff. Launch- 11.28, 9.71 low, 12.87 high Mack Made Custom Blade. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. [/quote] Dont think they ever release that stuff. I almost just quit playing golf because when I started 4 years ago I was playing golf with two people most of the time that were in the 1% of AMAs . Spin- 2645, 1948 low, 3745 high (Unimpededof course, because we always were able to play during the week). 3. It's good for some laughs. The average green size at Torrey Pines South is 6,000 square feet. It's good for some laughs. Victoria II. How can that be true. Going the Distance? This is something Im finding out at a 14 handicap. [quote name='jeffrey08250' timestamp='1364360280' post='6704435'] For example, I could average over 300 yards per round during the summer with a driver. Top 100 PGA Tour Player Guide (2021). Add That Little Extra Limited also participates in other affiliate programs with FlexOffers, CJ, Svorn and other sites and is compensated for referring traffic and business to these companies (again at no cost to you). The average for those golfers was 117 mph. 6 0 obj
He defeated Will Zalatoris in a 3-hole playoff to clinch the title for the second time. Top 100 Player Analysis, drivers and fairway woods the top 100 PGA Tour players, How Do Pros Hit the Ball So Far? Too many people walking around either who hit one drive at 300 a round and the rest slice 100 yards that only go 200 straight trying to tell people how great they are at golf when in reality they take like 6 mulligans a round or guys that are actually really good think that they are the norm when in reality they are a small minority and golf would not even exist if it were not for guys like me . Please have a look at this video about Smash Factor. Book a Session for only R500 to get your Swing Analysis. My problem is the amount of power i have and need to work on half wings. Is it around 25-35% less then the AMA group? While these yardages will give you a general guide as to how far pros hit their wedges it is important to remember how particular all the pros are about these clubs especially. Due to the large volume of autograph requests, fulfillment of requests is not guaranteed. As a whole PGA pros hit their pitching wedge an average carry distance of 141 yards. Mail at your own risk to: Excel Sports Management Its important to know what grass you play, what course you play (be it links or parkland) and how you deliver the club at impact (steep or shallow). But you also have to add in the slight mishits, the rainy days, and the balls that land in the rough. On the LPGA Tour the top pros hit their driver an average of 257.7 yards. 5 0 obj
I often feel articles such as this are skewed. I guess that's laughable though, right? any 7 iron data ? He has an average attack angle of -1.6 degrees.The following table looks at the AMA versus what is optimal., *Carry, Landing Angle, and Total were normalized under 0 alti- tude, 75F, and 75% humidity for the AMA to create an apples to apples comparison. Jordan Spieth WITB 2021 (May Charles Schwab Challenge), Jordan Spieth WITB: 2020 Farmers Insurance Open, Jordan Spieth winning WITB: 2022 RBC Heritage, WITB Time Machine: Jordan Spieths 2015 John Deere Classic winning WITB. For example, I could average over 300 yards per round during the summer with a driver. The AMA has an average club speed of 93.4 mph and an average total distance of 214 yards. President & CEO, Boys & Girls Clubs of Kentuckiana, Brent Paladino ;9#I 'S2G4Mi]JE Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400. That means the distance from the center of the green tothe edge averages just under 44 feet. [url="http://www.rotaryswing.com/golf-instruction/golfequipment/golf-launch-monitor.php"]http://www.rotaryswinch-monitor.php[/url] The respective games the AMA and professional golfers play today are two entirely separate entities and should be treated as such. Does that make sense? [quote name='xmanhockey7' timestamp='1364353356' post='6703825'] [/quote] First of all, I would always encourage any golfer to get custom fitted for Titleist Vokey wedges because the loft/bounce/grind chart can be very confusing. Vokeys are no doubt aspirational golf clubs, you are viewed as a knowledgeable and better golfer if you have these in the bag. However, it is more the fact that golfers are playing courses that are too long relative to club speed and skill level. Titleist fitting last summer at my home course. I'm not on here to impress anyone with my driving distance but that doesn't mean I didn't hit it that far. I have also never heard a beginner or poorer striker of the golf ball say I need to lower my ball flight which is what these are said to do. The following chart shows average handicap versus average club speed. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] Top 100 PGA Tour Player Guide, What Wedges Do the Pros Use? I remember they had the analysis of his 8 iron that he hit at firestone from like 200+ out in a golf digest or something a couple years ago don't remember any of the numbers unfortunately tho, M2, maybe In the lower lofted wedges (46-52) at address the club sits squarer, the leading edge looks to be straighter and less rounded at the top of the toe. At the Sony Open, Thomas became the youngest player to shoot 59 on the PGA TOUR and broke the TOURs 72-hole scoring record by a stroke. PGA Tour players hit their driver a total of 296.6 yards on average with a carry distance of 284.3 yards according to official 2022 Shotlink data. The new Vokey SM9 wedges has a focus on this exact shot by placing weight higher in the toe. What I find funny is the number of people on here that think it's ridiculous that an amateur golfer claims to have similar numbers to a professional. Carry Distance 302.9 The following graph shows a plot of the AMAs shots from 160 yards. Shaft: Aldila NV, 7-wood: Callaway Big Bertha I play off 8 at a championship course 7200 yards in the UK. Justin credits his success on the PGA TOUR to a childhood full of direction, support, and love. I am a 35 year old AMA at a 15. Yes, the TrackMan Combine data is extremely valuable for identifying weaknesses that can be improved, but it is just as (arguably more) important for identify strengths that the golfer can play to without having to spend any additional time practicing. While it would be easy to quietly continue his good deeds, the time is right to establish a foundation that can partner with others to positively impact countless philanthropic organizations and communities, and deliver even more good in the world. Ha, okay. Take Bubba for example who can increase his AoA to 5-6 and hit balls 350 yards in the air when screwing around on the range however on the course he hardly does that. [color=#ff0000]I'd really like to see Tiger's path and face numbers too among others especially seeing how far left he aims at times. When its hit well I have hit enough times in the 260-270 range so Im probably in that 95 mph swing speed range. You could take my woods and irons and pair it with Phil's wedge play and Stricker's putter and I'd be an average PGA tour player. Do you have Average Female Amature driver swing speed? Its important for me to have a 58 degree that works first and foremost in a bunker and then to chip with, because I use my 52 to chip with more often than not as I like to see the ball on the ground and rolling towards the hole so it has a chance of dropping in. Great read with invaluable data and information. It has to do with my ability. WebReport PP - Read online for free. [quote name='baseballfrk8998' timestamp='1364408786' post='6708081'] However don't be overwhelmed, the good news is that there is only one set up choice in the PW, two in the GW and multiple in SW and LW due to the wider range of shorter shots you play with these clubs. I once read that if all golfers had to count every stroke they took, and appropriate penalty shots, only 10 percent could legitimately break a 100. I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. My full swing with a driver was anout ewual to an average guys 9 iron turn. We've enjoyed playing this great game with friends, family and competitors from all over the world for many years. I, and many amateur golfers I play with on a regular basis, have the ability to hit the ball a long way. Im sure most of them can squeeze out 10 extra yards on every club on this chart. For as long as I can remember Vokey have been the top wedge brand in golf. Justin came from 7 strokes back to start the final round at the 2022 PGA Championship which ties the largest final round comeback in PGA Championship history. Before when I opened the club face I presented too much leading edge, but due to the high bounce and shape with the M grind this doesnt happen. Hamish777, March 26, 2013 in WRX Club Techs. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364414933' post='6708795'] Not sure how you measure it down to the exact yard on an average driving range. Also, the dispersion for misses will be much wider for the AMA than the professional. Knowing what club to hit based on distance and the safest place to aim based on dispersion tendencies will undoubtedly benefit the golfer. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Clubhead Speed - 125[/background][/size][/color] And a good part of the reason for that is the average golfer often watches with wonder as the best players on the PGA GolfingFocus.com was created simply as a place to allow us to try and find answers to common golfing questions asked, and problems faced, by all standards of golfer. God how I loved playing golf. I'm 6'3, in pretty good shape and played baseball my entire life. Golf critics talk about technology making golf courses obsolete because of distance, but what they fail to clarify is that this only pertains to 0.1% of the golfing population. I genuinely believe Vokeys make me a better bunker player, the SM8s changed my bunker game and these are just as good. Mr Vokey has listened and gone on to design a wedge with the feedback of those players in mind. [/quote] Imagine throwing darts as the commentary teams say on television. [/quote] Thanks to this impressive article, they will help more and more those who want to play golf. a higher loft) than the actual degree loft number shown on their club. I know his swing speed with driver is up around 120mph but thats all they seem to show on tv. With the AMA averaging 30 yards less than his potential, there is a lot of room for improvement. This instant gratification can be achieved through the 30-45 minute TrackMan Combine process! Here are Tiger's averages for this season on shots that were measured: [/quote] In other words the distance from where they hit the ball to the point of impact on the ground. As the previous poster said Im 43 so wont be Bubba Watson anytime soon. I spent a year playing by myself getting lessons finding a swing and just focused on having fun. Upload or insert images from URL. The calculated distances for the approach shot are based on actual driver data and optimized driver data for the AMA is also listed. The numbers posted above are cool to me because you can see Tiger hits balls on the range like he does on the course. I carry my 8 iron about 158 yards when Im hitting it good (see above). Progressive Centre of Gravity - Maintaining the lower CG in the stronger lofts, while raising CG even further in the more lofted clubs. Learn how your comment data is processed. I wouldn't take a trackman stat to the bank. Dear friend, do anyone here user Taylormade RSI 1 Irons. timestamp='1364355784' post='6704107'] The data has been collected through the TrackMan Combine from over 10,000 golfers of all levels from around the world. I have always wanted a push draw and now i can see the light in the tunnel. T
'enG~q/Om\#Q`{ HLRpC45`|NiG*"2agUTeu9d10S8xl?O`,`~ja~=j'(d~e?7UN+&iHPI=8NQQ={"K9R1d"3j$NJd[?@fUM)IxJ)Sn-bcVk7*"d9;&!0tB%=7$W&q&:L^q1|T]6k)SF Very interesting but sort of depressing article. I was advised to switched to the 8 bounce as my impact is shallower than when I was previously fitted for my SM8s. The AMA is capable of carrying the ball much further than his current total distance. To make such large scale improvements, we must first better understand the patientin order to diagnose the problems. Simmer down, all. Learn to play your game, but keep pushing yourself where sensible and on the range, and youll enjoy your round more and start playing much more consistent golf. Stay up to date and receive free notifications of new posts by email. 3-irons average 217 yds, 4-irons 208 yds, 5-irons 199 yds, 6-irons 188 yds, 7-irons 177 yds, 8-irons 164 yds and 9-irons 153 yds. Whatever helps you sleep at night my friend. Dont be that person, as how your club interacts with the turf is more vital in wedges than with any other club. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364416375' post='6708959'] As you can guess my improvement has now become dependent on driver efficiency and distance. bT^GCUbIRT97U]"p:JJL)K^B"qPLCw4jw[ ))~u#-n MQ\~x/1c_kQ&mK There isnt anybody who wouldnt like to be able to hit the ball further. It makes the head look a little rounder, but Vokey has done a great job of disguising this weight distribution at address. I would say probably is bs. More photos from the event here. I grabbed the 46 degree to see if I could finally be that 3 wedge Vokey golfer, it was so good I asked for an entire iron set of Vokeys. I'm 6'3, in pretty good shape and played baseball my entire life. When it comes to looking at how far the pros hit their wedges the stock yardage they hit each club is again obviously only one of the multiple yardages they can hit the most versatile clubs in any players golf bag.
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